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Digest for Friday October 22, 1999

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Hi Everyone, 

We've been experiencing some hardware problems that have effected both our e-mail and our web page - The WWQP.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything is now fixed and things will be back to normal.  Sorry for any problems these problems have caused.  Hope the lack of our web site gave everyone a chance to get more quilting done

Take care

Sue T - List mom, real mom, & webmaster.
From:  Lavinia 
Subject: Machines, Gunk
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 05:43:00 -0400

Sue, thanks for this board, it is immensely helpful.  One thing I was told
would remove gunk is Avon's Skin so Soft.  If you don't have it handy ask a
rep for one of those little sample packets, perhaps.   Re the sewing
machines (Bernina) try going to www.berninausa.com they have forums for both
newer and older machines, and listings of machines for sale.  Also the
classifieds for the worldwide page has several machines.  You'll see my new
Elna and cabinet there (which I had on layaway for ten months) as my husband
has decided he would like to sell out and live in an RV full time.  Ha -
anyone remember seeing Lucy in "The Long, Long Trailer"?  Oh before I
forget, you can list the fabric you are searching for at
www.missingfabrics.com .  Lavinia  
From: Donald  
Subject: New to the list
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:45:08 -0700

Hi from the  .  Looking forward to joining in.  Ruth  provided me with the information to join in.
    I've been quilting since 1992, although I took 18 months off and no quilting to recuperate from a high typhoon storm aht devastated us personally.  Am just back from a trip to the U.S. visiting So. Calif and Oregon.  Came home with a suitcase full of wonderful fabrics and hopefully enough inspiration to get back into quilting.  My favorite quilt blocks are Attic Windows and Log Cabins.  Love to play with Attic Windows making fish quilts and shell quilts.  Also, am just finishing up a Log Cabin Sampler, which has 27 different Log Cabins.
While in San Diego picked it up, as I have a lady there (Joyce) who machine quilts most of my quilts.  I suffer from Fibromyalgia and am unable to do large things on the machine, and I only machine piece.
    Hope to get acquainted with you all..  I'm sure there are other Karen's on the list, so will sign off - from the t tropics, Karen  
From: JQuilt 
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:04:13 EDT
Subject: fabri-quilt

here's a website address for fabri-quilt
then you can click on e mail and send them an e-mail asking for a location of 
the cuddle print you are looking for.

about the www quilting page and the message about it not being able to be 
opened...your best bet is to delete all of your temp. internet files and then 
try again...
From: WilliQuilt 
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:45:46 EDT
Subject: WWQP

At least I'm not alone.  I, too, have been shut out of the WWQP.  Sometimes I 
can get to the page, but then not the Bulletin Board.  I didn't used to have 
a problem.  I haven't changed my settings or anything and for about the past 
month I have only been able to get the BB about twice.  I miss my friends!  I 
wonder what's up.  Willi

ADMIN NOTE:  Please see my message above for an explainantion about our hardware problems.
From: procter 
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:58:51 -0500
Subject: Re: Jodi Barrows

I have seen the technique demonstrated at Paducah.  It is a clever idea of
just sewing strips to your piece then using a ruler to trim to make a
triangle attached to the previous piece.  As a very thrifty person, someone
will really have to convince me to sew excess to cut off, but I can maybe
see one way of doing that.  It does seem to work pretty fast though.  I
also would be interested in knowing others opinions. 

To add about  elderly parents, remember that we are now living in their
future where it seems as if Buck Rogers did come to life.  I know it is
with mine in their eigties. They are really sharp, but dang when it comes
to all of the medicare stuff, my Dad loves to argue about it.  Thank God
they are fairly healthy.  Bless all you who are as lucky as me.
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 06:04:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: mavgirl kathy 
Subject: want to be quilting

Vivian, I also want to be quilting instead of working.
 I think part of it is because several of my quilting
friends don't work and I envy the way they can knock
out those quilts! I'm a social worker and sometimes
instead of listening to my clients,I'm thinking of my
quilt.  Can't wait to retire, but thats many years
down the road.
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:22:50 -0700
From:  Pat  
Subject: (no subject)

Hi everyone, the Houston IQF was great, I went yesterday. The quilts
were great!!! Spent lots of $$$ at the vendors. I am tired today,
we were there from 10:00 till 6:15 and so much to see but so much fun
seeing all the quilts and new gadgets and fabric and patterns and

To the person who posted about her mother and her cancer, (sorry I
didn't see your name on your post.) I'm so sorry about your mom,
don't beat your self up though, it sounds like you did everything
you could for her. We always feel like we should have done more, I
speak from experience as I lost my day in Sept. of 1997, and there
are times I think, why didn't I do this or that, but at the time,
we do what we think is best. We can't do and be all. 
My mom is 84 and I know what you mean about thinking they understand
everything the dr. tells them, I go with her each time and after
we get home she always says something to let me know she thought he
said one thing and most times that is not what he meant.
I think people mean well, but they really should keep there opinion
to them selves about other people's medicine or treatment. 
Thanks for sharing with us, maybe it will help us all to be more
of aware of what we say to other people, and not to take things for
granted about what our elderly family understands.
From:  Lisa  
Subject: World Wide Quilt Page
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:29:53 -0500

I was just looked at their site yesterday
http://quilt.com/MainQuiltingPage.html .  Hope this helps.

From: Gundugger 
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:06:43 EDT
Subject: Cutting the quilt!!

I've been in a  "rut" and couldn't bring myself to start any new quilting 
projects. I finally got my creative juices flowing last night and made a cute 
little angel wallhanging. Lo and behind as I began cutting out the warm and 
natural batting....I realized I'd cut into my wallhanging!! My first thought 
was "Agh!!! I know my Kaffee Klatsch pals will be able to sympathize!!" And 
with all the talk lately about finishing things without them having to be 
perfect.....and since it's a folksy, rustic looking angel anyway...I fused 
some fabric on the back to patch it up and finished it!!! She's adorable and 
most importantly she got my creative juices going again to start more 
projects. Thanks my rustic angel with a little fabric tear!!

PS: I have some 8 by 8 blocks I'd like to make into a scrap quilt. What size 
should the sashings be? 
From:  Susan 
Subject: Sergers
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:21:10 -0700

    I have used a serger to make a "quilt" (actually it is a shower curtain)  The serger works really well to sew with.  I would hate to try and hand quilt through all those threads, the seams become just too bulky.  You do have to be careful not to chop any skin off.  What I did was to push the blade up out of the way so that it was not cutting as I was sewing.  Matching seams can be a bit difficult at times because the machine just carries the fabric away!
    I would use the serger only if I were not going to back and quilt the project.  A duvet cover is a great option on the serger, shower curtains, curtains etc.  I would recommend that you try one top just to see what it is like.
From: Susan 
Subject: Gunk
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 07:22:22 -0700

For gunk on rulers, I have used goo gone.  It works really well!
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:34:09 -0700
From:  Pat 
Subject: Re: square in a square

Hi again everyone!

To Elaine   I have the s-i-a-s ruler and a couple of her
books,and her video. I first saw her on the Kay Wood show a couple of
years ago and a couple of months later, went to a quilt show, and one 
of the vendors had her things.Thats when I purchased the ruler and video
and first book.
And last year at the HIQF, I purchased another one.
I saw her again yesterday at the Houston IQF, she was demonstrating her
technique. I am still learning, but I do like it. You can make such
sharp points. 
From:  Nancy  
Subject: Re: Vacation Alert
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:16:31 -0500

Velma, I have the same problem.  I'm at the  
office but my heart is at home at my
sewing machine!  I often think how nice
it would be to be able to chuck this job and
just quilt--but then, would it?  Would I get
too much of quilting?  I don't know, but I'd
love to give it a try for a couple of weeks!
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:48:44 -0700
From: Betty 
Subject: square in a square

Hi everyone,
I took a class in this technique.  I bought the first book and the
special ruler (each $28.00 CDN) before the class.  In retrospect, I'm
not sure I'd spend the money if I'd known what the technique was all
about.  For one thing, you really don't need the special ruler, although
it does make trimming your work easier.  I haven't used the technique
since taking the class (granted, it's only been since late September,
and I was on holiday for two weeks since then), although now every time
I look at a block or a quilt, I try to pick out parts of the block which
could be pieced using the SNS technique.  However, it was fun to do, and
I think after Christmas (when I'm not so rushed) I'll try something else
in her book, because once you understand the technique, the piecing and
trimming really do go very quickly.  
Just my $.02 worth!
From: Pfafflvr 
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 12:57:27 EDT
Subject: Re: Kaffee-Klatsch for 10/20/1999

>> has anyone tried the Square in a Square technique by Jodi Barrows?>>
I've tried this technique thru a class at the local quilt shop and on my own 
from one of Barrows's books.  It's a good, accurate technique that gives 
intricate looking patterns without handling little, complicated pieces.  She 
instructs how to adapt the sizes to your particular needs.  Being a very 
cheap person, I'm a little taken back by the amount of fabric that gets cut 
away in some of the patterns leaving lots of odd sized pieces on all sorts of 
grains.  But the accuracy is very nice and the sewing straight forward and 
easy, and the time saved not lining up every tiny angle and bias side is 
worth something, too.  
To the question about getting sticker gunk off rulers--rub it with a little 
vegetable oil and wash with dish washing detergent. 
From: linzucchi 
Subject: Guild information and more ?'s
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 09:52:16 -0400

I laughed in recognition at the posting involving the discomfort at guild
meetings.  I tried a guild last year, and enjoyed it, but I could never stay
for the full sessions or take classes because I had my youngest in half day
kindergarten.  This year, I have the time to make meetings, but alas...I
have forgotten which Monday of the month the Trumbull Piecemakers meets.
Can anyone out there fill me in?

One more question...does anyone know where I can find a redwork alphabet
pattern?  I have just completed the top for Betty Alderman's Nursery Rhyme
Blue Work quilt, and it is just lovely!  It's also the kind of project that
is PERFECT for taking along to soccer practices and orthodontist
appointments.  I'd like to set up an alphabet quilt in a Glad freezer bag to
keep in the car.

Thanks for pleasure you have provided me with your posts...keep on quilting!

Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 16:43:58 -0500
Subject: Bernina 930

To Debbie in Maryland. About the 930, I have been using a 930 at work
for the past 10 years. As far as the needle up/down I beleive it has
more to do with the foot controller. When I started working with the 930
I had a Pfaff(early 70's) at home and was going completely bananas when
I'd want to sew at home cause at work I would run the "accelerator"
with my left foot and use my right knee for the presser foot lifter.Kind
of like patting your head and rubbing your tummy type things. Anyway
when I'd get home I'd get so frustrated cause I couldn't lift the
presser foot with my right knee.  Went to my Bernina dealer and told him
I wanted a new 930, I just wanted a good mechanical machine with the
presser foot lifter. Guess what? They didn't make the 930 anymore,
Now(1989) they had the 1030. So that is what I bought. I love my 1030.
Basically is the 930 with acouple of more fancy stitches, but better
buttonhole maker, zig-zagging is all forward.  Then they came out with
the 1630. Ahh, got the 1630 but kept the 1030 for my daughters to learn
on. Now that I have been doing more piecing I have found out that I
prefer andit does a better job on the 1030. Why? because the feed dogs
are closer together and it has better control of the fabric.  Was
talking to my dealer not to long ago about the new 180, possibly trading
in my 1630. would you beleive she told me not to . I'm really not into
the embroidery motifs and she felt beween the two machines I'd be better
off. I did find out thatthe 1030 were not made for very long so there
are fewer of them than the 930.So I would look for either machine.

Since I got my 930 and 1630 I have also inherited my mothers Pfaff
301(needs so new wiring), my grandmothers Necchi(also from the 50's) and
I bought a Singer treadle that only needs a belt and a Featherweight.

Now if I could only figure out how to operate them all at the same time
I could maybe get some of my UFO's done

Janet in central MN
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:03:53 -0400
From: Linda Rath 
Subject: Potato soup

Hi...thought you guys might like this SO EASY.....one of my favorites


l cup onion chopped
l celery rib chopped
l med. carrot grated
l/2 cup margarine

Saute til tender
add 2 Tab. flower and stir til thick

Add 4 cups milk
l can Cream of Mush soup
l/2 cup shedded cheddar cheese
6 potatoes (cooked and cubed)
l teas. seasoned salt

Heat through (make sure cheese is melted.  Don't boil as milk with curd

Best soup around.  Enjoy Linda
From: "Mary G. Werner" 
Subject: How to use...
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 18:13:07 -0400

the Millenium fabrics which I have been collecting and hoarding for about a year now?  I want to make 3 throw size quilts ... one for each of my married daughters and one for me.  Can't be a LONG project.  I know I can just cut squares some size and sew them all together but maybe one of you can suggest something more original that would still go fast.  The fabrics are wonderful!

Thanks for this digest ... I love reading it!

Mary in Red Bank, NJ
From: "Kyle McDaniel" 
Subject: Clip art for Quilters
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 21:56:00 -0400

Hi quilters!
I just joined in this week and have been reading all the archives.
What a great group-- and  devoted to quilting.  Have picked up some really good tips and ideas.  I  just read the post from CJ asking about the clipart Cd for quilters.  I was wondering where you bought it and what all in general it had on it.  I write the monthly guild newsletter and I need all the help I can get to make it more interesting.  Any one have some ideas from their guild please send them my way!
Just this week I found I must be one of those people trying do everything too perfectly-- your posts put it all in perspective for me-- I had a full sized quilt professionally Machine quilted --the first and last time---and the borders were all stretched and uneven-- I really had to work to bind it to satisfy me!  Am trying to get it ready to hang in our guild quilt show ---it may be one to hang all bunched up in a corner if it doesn't come out straight --LOL-- but I used cotton batting and I will wash it and hope for the best--I know my family will love it even if no one else does.
Thanks for letting me bend your ear.
Hugs and happy quilting
Gay in OHIO
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 23:48:00 -0400
From: Betty Ann Schilling 
Subject: Reply to postings

Have been unbelievably busy and finally had time to read some of the
postings before I go to bed--I am a night owl so do my best reading
between 1 and 3:00 a.m.(another reason I LOVE KK!)  In reply to Erinn,
to remove the sticky marks, try peanut butter, YES, peanut butter (but
not the chunky kind!)  Because of a visual problem, I use bridges of
masking tape to keep my quarter inch straight.  I have cleaned the
residue from my Berninas with peanut butter, then cleaned with rubbing
alcohol to remove all the oil.  It was suggested to me after I scratched
the mirror on my new bedroom set trying to get stickers off--wish I had
known about it before I tackled the mirror.  On  joining a guild, I
agree you have to make an effort to get to know some of the group more
closely by volunteering for a committee or special project.  Friends
tend to come with friends and continue conversations, especially if they
don't see each other except at meetings.  Also, if you have really given
a group a try and you still feel like you don't belong, try another
group.  I just left a group after 8-l/2 years as the group never did
anything but have business meetings!  (It takes me a while to realize
things aren't going to change--I'm an optomist).  Several members left
and formed a small group (12) that meets locally in library, and we
enjoy each other so much we are going to meet twice a month.  We teach
each other from projects we have completed and classes we have taken,
and look forward to our time together.  I also belong to two guilds, and
quilt at a church (when I can) with a group of older ladies who meet
every week and work on their own projects.  I have lived here 9 years,
and my association with all four groups has taken place in the past 2
years so don't worry about trying something new.  I enjoy each group so
much and wonder why I stuck with original group for so long.  
  Betty Ann in cold, crisp Ohio

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